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This page discusses renaming the Pylons project, and alternatives to the pylonshq.com domain name.

Domains that keep the Pylons name

  • pylonshq.org (owned by the Pylons team but not currently used)
  • pylonsframework.org (makes it clear this is a framework to people who see only the link)
  • pylons-framework.org (Measier to read and less jarring than pylonsframework)
  • pylons.org, pylons.com, pylons.net (all owned by third parties and thus unavailable)

Reasons for changing the domain

  • Why the "hq"?
  • .com is for commercial for-profit organizations; this may turn off potential Pylons users.
  • If you're looking for a web framework, "pylonshq" doesn't say that this is one.

Reasons for sticking with pylonshq.com

  • Many people have bookmarks or public links to the site.
  • It may lower our Google ranking.

Renaming the Pylons project

James Gardner is open to renaming the project if we can come up with a compelling better name.

Disadvantages of "Pylons" as a name

  • The visual imagery does not connote an appealing logo
  • Nobody understands what pylons have to do with web frameworks

Advantages of "Pylons" as a name

  • We're already using it

Suggested alternative project names

  • NAME (DOMAIN, DOMAIN...): REASONS
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Comments (4)

 

  1. Jun 19, 2007

    Stephen Day says:

    I think "Pylons" is a great name! pylons can hold up something, a web applicat...

    I think "Pylons" is a great name!

    • pylons can hold up something, a web application in this case.
    • pylons is a real word that includes "py"
    • java developers will probably notice a relation to "struts"

  2. Jul 26, 2007

    rangzen says:

    mplayer has a domain with hq and it's not a problem, it's a famous piece of co...
    • mplayer has a domain with hq and it's not a problem, it's a famous piece of code
    • ruby on rails, turbogears or django don't have name that sounds like "I'm a web framework" but it didn't matter. Does GNU/Linux sounds like "great operating system" ?
    • it's a bit strange but I think that the google rank is more important than the domain name like pylons.org
    • the domain have to start with pylons cause when people start to write pylons in address bar, pylonshq will "popup"

  3. Aug 01, 2007

    Ches Martin says:

    I personally concur with Stephen: I think "Pylons" is a great name, and it insta...

    I personally concur with Stephen: I think "Pylons" is a great name, and it instantly conjured imagery befitting the project when I first came across it:

    • Industrial qualities (strength, progressiveness).
    • Infrastructure. A foundation on which I can quickly build something. Perfectly suits a framework, especially where Pylons acts to bring together and leverage other components.
    • Power. Literally (the electrical variety!).
    • Connectivity.
    • A modern aesthetic. One often sees pylons in remote places. There's an element of pride, or even romance ironically, in an image of a single pylon in a rural setting.

    I actually do think that a clever designer could come up with a really cool identity design for the theme. It would just take the right person willing to form an understanding – and possessing talent

    Regarding domains, the point made on the mailing list that search rankings for 'framework' should be a bigger focus than 'pylons' is a valid one I think. Keywords in the domain is a big plus. As for existing links and bookmarks, redirecting is really trivial, at least with Apache and mod_rewrite:

    RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^pylonshq\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://pylons-framework.org/$1 [R=301,L]

    Or what have you. And whoila, old links go to the correct place on the new domain and Googlebot is notified in good 301 fashion to update. An extra rule or two for the wiki, but you get the idea. I don't have a strong opinion about the domain debate, but I don't think that links should be a consequential factor.

  4. Feb 05, 2008

    Markus Majer says:

    I would vote for an additional www.pylons-framework.org domain, and then perhaps...

    I would vote for an additional www.pylons-framework.org domain, and then perhaps let this be the default domain.

    I would vote for those in this order:
    1. pylons-framework.org
    2. pylons-project.org
    3. pylons-hq.org
    4. pylonshq.org

    Django using framework and project also, because the most obvious domains for them are also already registered.


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